2013-10-28

My Comment to Google Plus “Versus” On US Sedition Laws



131028 My Comment to Google Plus “Versus” On US Sedition Laws Edition

Chas Boline
Versus (Politics and Public Policy) - 10:04 AM
** Should charges of sedition be brought against the Congressional members who brought about the government shutdown?**

By their own repeated admission, the Tea Party Republicans had every intention of shutting down the government in opposition to the Affordable Care Act, a legally established, Constitutionally validated law.
Their actions leading up to the deadline show a clear conspiracy to take control of the government vis-a-vis the passage of House Resolution 368, overriding House Rule 22 (http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/the-house-rule-change-ensured-shutdown).
This indicates that this was a planned, coordinated attempt to wrest control of the government for the purpose of crippling the ACA.
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18 U.S.C. § 2384 : US Code - Section 2384: Seditious conspiracy -
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/115/2384#sthash.juoNa7gP.dpuf

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Me:

Umm? Dumb Aussie here. But as to the
"18 U.S.C. § 2384 : US Code - Section 2384: Seditious conspiracy -" thing, I see the general problem, which exists globally, is proving with indisputable facts, that "the government" is doing what "governments" are supposed to, which is putting the best and highest interests of the citizenry first.

But the "political class", encompassing all of them, is so in-deep with the manipulations of process, and of legal discernments, and are so under the powerful and corrupting influence of the global corporations, that no-one now is capable of making an unambiguous case that any government, right or left or whatever, are either NOT "Serving the People" or ARE "Serving the People".

We mostly all see and agree that all of the governments, of the world in fact, are all failing extremely badly in "Serving the People" as-in ALL of the People.

But everyone is essentially "disarmed" when it comes to proving the failings, even though they are now, everywhere, clearly, blatantly biased disgustingly toward the "1%" as depicted by your and the world "OCCUPY WALL STREET Movement".

No-one seems either savvy enough, or perhaps it's "daring" enough, to define the influences in say, Washington, and distinguish the self-centred, and essentially anti-Democratic, so anti-Citizenry corporations [and cults, or, churches] from the functions and processes and appointments necessary for a Genuine Democracy to exist, so that everyone IS "served" and, in Utopia, of course, does not need to be corrupt or bent or shifty or simply deceitful to be secure in house and fridge.

And.., hasn't the US Constitution something in it saying that the People have a right to challenge, or perhaps even bring down a government, if they can prove, that the government is NOT doing it's proper job?

If so, then again, we have the question of any challenger, satisfying the courts, themselves biased to buggery, that the government is corrupt. Which, obviously, it, in the USA, and everywhere - almost - is!

On top of any relatively minuscule group proving in a court that their accusations are true and correct, and thus bring about the right to depose the government, there's always, in this false and deliberately divided "democratic" populace, the 48 or 52 percent who will happily take up arms against those cheeky legal specialists who manage to prove that the other side, in government should be deposed.

Civil war, the inevitable outcome.

A terrible conundrum, for all nations today.

It seems that until a large majority - like over 70% minimum - of the People, police and military included - are fully, or very highly knowledgable on the underlying economic and cultural, social and customary rights, but more importantly, their DUTIES, or, "Responsibilities", in a Democracy, all of which come under the auspices of Laws, and are also intelligent enough to know when they are being done over by "sharks", the only path forward is into an abyss.

The USA stands apart in the world, simply because you have the right to bear arms.

Down here, down under, that has always been kept from us.

Sure, we have next to no gun violence, and the injury and death rate is negligible comparative to the USA.

But we are being given such a filthy run-around by all our "authorities" and politicians, and are becoming ever weaker and more cowardly than ever, mainly because "they" have all the guns, and "we" have no means of standing against the massively corrupt powers-that-rule-us.

But HEY? The reality is the same over there, aye? The more guns loose in the Citizenry, the more and the bigger weaponry the "authorities" demand and carry. It's proportionately, about the same, with or without either guns or the right to bear arms.

In the end, the only way, [HA!] is for everyone to get smart, and learn the Property and Economic Laws. AND.., how our minds work, and are influenced, by advert and marketing bullshit, etc.

But the system keeps us all too frantic for a buck to have time or energy, or hope, to learn the essentials.


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